Green Bay Packers cornerback Sam Shields Pat Lovell-USA TODAY Sports

Green Bay Packers: The future without Shields


 

By now you’ve heard that Green Bay Packers cornerback Sam Shields is after a big pay day, opting to test the free agency waters.

The announcement that Shields would be looking for big money outside of Green Bay came yesterday and was underscored today when Ian Rappaport of nfl.com announced that the Packers were looking to pay him less than $6 million per year. With teammate Tramon Williams making in the $7 million range, Shields, it seems, is looking to match or better that number.

 

 

Is he worth it and will the Packers let him walk or will they try to match or better a contract like that if offered?

Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson - what will he do if Sam Shields walks in free agency? Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY Sports

Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson – what will he do if Sam Shields walks in free agency?
Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY Sports

My guess is that GM Ted Thompson isn’t about to pay that kind of money to Shields – one of his undrafted free agents who made the team as a rookie and has only improved since.

So, what do the Packers do if Shields walks?

Well, let’s remember that when healthy, the Packers already have a pretty good crew of cornerbacks starting with Williams. The question is who would play opposite him? Would it be Micah Hyde or Davon House? Would they try Casey Hayward on the outside or continue to relegate him to the slot, where he excelled as a rookie? The Packers also still have Jarrett Bush on the roster, a prime example of the penultimate dime back.

With a defensive line and outside linebackers that could put pressure on the offense, this isn’t a bad defensive backfield. However, with a defensive line that leaks against the run and allows even the bad quarterbacks to put up numbers because they’ve got all day, this is an average to poor defensive backfield. Frankly, any set of cornerbacks that don’t get the support up front is average. Remember, this is a passing league and when the QB is standing back there like the Statue of Liberty – yes, even Christian Ponder can pick apart a defense.

But I digress.

The question is whether the Packers go after a free agent cornerback who would sign a contract more in their price range? It wouldn’t be a Jairus Byrd, Alterraun Verner or Brent Grimes, but maybe it could be a Aqib Talib or Vontae Davis.

Will Casey Hayward come back healthy for the Green Bay Packers in 2014? Jeff Hanisch-USA TODAY Sports

Unless Shields’ suitors don’t offer him the world and bags of cash – say in the $7-$9 million range – he could realistically be back in Green Bay, which would provide the team with more options, such as moving Hyde to safety.

However, if the Cleveland Browns or San Diego Chargers come through with a deal that breaks the bank, we don’t expect Shields to be wearing #37 in Green and Gold next year.

The good news is that it will provide the Packers with other options in spending the $35 million in cap money they are sitting on and will make it necessary to adjust their draft board.

With the free agency conversations heating up come this weekend, we’ll surely know much more by the time the actual pens swing into action starting a week from now.

Stay tuned on this one … developments with Shields will most likely start the gears turning in a different direction for the Green Bay Packers.

 

 

Next Packers Game View full schedule »
Thursday, Sep 44 Sep5:30at Seattle SeahawksBuy Tickets
Dick's Sporting Goods presents "Hell Week":

Tags: Green Bay Packers Sam Shields

  • Mike Brand

    hayward is what we do and pick up one of the many cbs in the 4th or 5th round. not to mention hyde and house we are gonna be ok if shields walks . but i have a feeling shields will be back with a lesserr ego than he has now and cheaper than what we already offered . there are 3 bigger cbs on the market and shields will be the 4th and the market will be way lower for him

    • Phillip

      Shields isn’t gonna have a problem finding more tham 6 million, offering less than 6 is pretty insulting in my eyes, especially when the corner opposite him that he outplayed is getting 7.5. Shields would have been worth an offer of 7. 7.5 especially if it would of kept him off the market. A corner like Shields, a guy who is solid in man, runs 4.3, keeps getting better each year, just getting towards his prime with plenty of upside n potential to be even better in a year or so wont have any issues finding 7-8 mil from a CB needy team with cap room, odds are he’ll possibly be in the middle of a bidding war, fetting offers higher than his original asking price. Letting Shields walk will be a mistake, GB would be better off cutting Tramon n giving Shields his deal.

      • Mike Brand

        what part of not being an elite do some of you not get shields is not even a top 15 corner and will not get 7 mil . lets look at the last 2 years the best corner we had in 2012 was hayward the best corner we had in 2013 was tramon . no matter how fast you run if you cant play like an elite dont ask for elite pay. ted knows what to do if he did not think hayward could not do the job he would have caved in and overpaid shields

        • Phillip

          Tramon did not outplay Shields last year, he didn’t even play better lined up against lesser talent and as for Hayward in 2012, he played the Nickel, played the lesser of guys n actually Shields was overall better in 2012, he was rated as a top 15 corner. Shields wont have issues finding 7 mil a year n depending on what other corners get locked up, he might even find more than 7. You’re lost dude if you think letting Shields walk is the right choice, letting Tramon walk would be the better option. If not for Shields last year we don’t beat Dallas n don’t make the playoffs. If not for Shields injury we probably play Carolina last season after beating SF cause there’s no possible way Crabbtree makes Shields look the way he made House look. Get ready for another year of BS lousy D cause if the deal here is any indication of TT FA strategy, well nothing changes n we’ll be right back in the same situation, a lousy ass D anchoring down.our SB caliber offense.

          • Mike Brand

            so in 2013 shields had 51 tackles and 4 sat tramon had 61 tackles and 3 int and in 2012 hayward had 40 tackles and 6 int to shields 28 tackles and 3 int so your telling me shields was better than both of them . i bet you would pay raji 40 mil to keep him too huh. also if not for lacy turning it around on the cowboys the first half of that game dallas owned us so shields did nothing different lacy did he took control got the points and ate the clock thats why we won that game not shields

          • Mike Brand

            but by all means post any stats to prove me wrong on what i just did using stats from the main website. shields at best is a 5 mil a year player and he will find that out at the free agent market as other teams do him like they did jennings last year. bet your one of the ones that said packers were doomed when jennings left too huh

          • Phillip

            GTFO dude, bandwagon fan, haha you’re an idiot. You’re obviously 1 of them fans that actually knows nothing about the game n just thinks everything GB does is a genius move, we finally develop a really solid defensive player other than Clay n now you wanna let him walk because he’s asking for a fair deal for a guy in his position, its ignorance. You wanna talk about stats, lets talk about a few that actually say something about his play, stats you.mentioned don’t do full justice to the actual play. Shields only allowed 50% completion rate n just a 72.7 passer rating against n was 10th in the NFL in passes defended, n 1 thing that can’t be judged with a stats is the guys he had to cover, some of the best in the NFL n did a hell of a job against most all of em, with practically no safety help. How many CB’s can go up with Calvin in the endzone n take a jump ball away?? Not many. If we had a secondary of Sam Shields, our pass D is easily top 5. Shields was a solid corner this year, he’s gonna get paid, and he deserves it and has earned it by his play, hes easily gonna get more than 5, either by us or somebody else, don’t be surprised though when TT is matching offers n we get him back for between 6.5 n 7.5 cause he was our best defensive player last season n losing him sets us another step backwards from how bad we are. Can’t lose talented players and get better, especially when we have a major lack of defensive playmakers to begin with. So think what ya want, but I’m done arguing this point with you.

          • Mike Brand

            he only faced calvin once this past year do you forget the first game calvin did not play the 2nd game calvin only played the first qrtr seems like you dont watch the games much. he even struggled with marshal with a back up qb look at marshals numbers, shields is average and has most likely peaked . sorry but at 5 years in the nfl your better than average or just average . he is not that shutout guy nor will he ever be if he hasnt got there in 5 years . if you pay a average guy 7 mil when you can pay an elite 8 mil i have to say your the kind of guy that buys magic beans from street peddlers . even nfl network today said shields value was at 5 mil to 5.5 mil a year due to all the elite corners in free agency taking the biggest pay days

          • Phillip

            Dude, a lot of the stuff you say really shows you have no business arguing anything to do with football. 1st Shields hasn’t been in the NFL 5 years, only been 4 years. Dude wasn’t even a corner but 1 year in college, there’s no possible way he’s already peaked. 2nd, i never said anything about how many games Calvin played, i know he missed the 1st 1 and no, the 2nd 1 he played far more than just the 1st quarter, he had 6 catches for 101 and a TD, and most of it not on Shields.Also, Shields didn’t really struggle with anybody, when throw at he only allowed the 50% comp rate, a 72.7 passer rating and 664 yards on the year, and over 1/3 of those yards given up, 264 of em were weeks 1 and 2, so over his next 12 games he only gave up 400 yards when thrown at, just 30 yards a game average, that in definition is what you’d call a shut down corner, he didn’t really struggle 1 on 1 with anybody. For as bad as we were on D last year, Shields was outstanding to be that good with that little amount of help, and as for Chicago’s backup, he was better than the starter. Shields is far better than average, he’s 1 of the better man coverage guys in the NFL, only knock on him is his tackling and sometimes he takes too many chances, other than that he’s damn good. N everybody was predicting Shields to be paid around 7 a year, since the day the season ended. Anyway, we see who was right about Shields value, i didn’t expect it to be as much as it is, but it’s still far far more than what you believed and don’t think TT just went out and decided to offer him 4 mil a year more on his own, Shields obviously had to of received some major interest yesterday, TT had to have an idea of where teams were willing to go with Shields contract to give him what he did. I even believe it’s a little much, would of been happier around 7-8, but i’m just happy we have him back cause we weren’t gonna be better without him, now we just need to hope we find a capable safety to control the middle of the field and we’ll see Shields become a top 10 corner and own his side of the field shutting down whoever he lines up against. Dude is gonna prove his worth with the right help around him. Guys with Shields man coverage ability are rare and are highly valuable, no matter how the rest of their game is.

          • Mike Brand

            really why is he on contract 3 then . go on bandwagon fan go on tired of dealing with those who know nothing. i have been a packer fan since starr was the coach how long have you been a packer fan. i have seen the best and the worse of the packers. shields is not worth 10 mil and if you think so you need back on your short bus. you bring up names but really did you watch the game megatron missed the first game and was only there for about a qrtr in the 2nd game and shields got owned did you not even watch the game on thanksgiving . how about the niners game colin put
            up over 400 yards passing. the bears thing come on with the back up qb shields got owned with cutler sure he had a great game but who does not have a great game when cutler is throwing. as i said nothing can stop whats been done i will move forward and hope they get a pryor in the first to help it make it look like shields was a good deal but if not his average side will show even more

          • Phillip

            I watched the game, dude you really are a complete moron. Explain to me how if Calvin only played 1 quarter, how did he score a TD in the 3rd quarter??? Go on, tell me that. I watched the game, just cause Calvin went for 100 don’t mean it was 100 on Shields, Shields like i said only gave up 3 catches for 36 yards vs Calvin and got the jump ball pick on him in the endzone. And what does the fact that Calvin didn’t play the 1st game mean??? I know this, I’ve said i know this, why do you keep saying that. Also yes, i know Colin threw for over 400, just cause he threw for 400 don’t mean it was 400 on Shields, also i said the 1st 2 games he struggled and gave up over 1/3 of his yards, he was credited for giving up 264 pass yards when targeted in the 1st 2 weeks, that leaves only 400 pass yards when targeted over the last 14+ games, counting the little time he played in the wild card game. He only allowed 29 catches for 400 yards, less than 50% and less than a 70 passer rating over those last 14+ games when targeted. As for the Bears, you see the #’s for Marshall when facing Shields, those #’s are facts. Like Bill Polian said on NFL insiders, guys who can cover man to man like Shields can are gonna get paid, he fits our team better than probably any of the other guys we could of gotten because he knows our system and has proven he can lock down the great WR’s in the NFL. Also, NO, Shields has not been in the league 5 years, that shows right there how little you actually know, Shields wasn’t given the traditional 4 year rookie contract because he was undrafted, his rookie season was our SB year, when he was a big contributor in our postseason run, he signed a 1 year restricted tender last season after his 3rd year, he’s only going into his 5th season, just his 6th as a CB, if we can get consistent pass rush and a solid Safety that can play center fields were gonna see what Shields full potential is, he’s gonna have his own Shields Island, dude’s a premier man coverage guy. You need to learn to check your facts before you try n argue with somebody who clearly has tons and tons more football knowledge than you. And as for how long I’ve been a fan, pretty much since Brett Favre, when i was 9 years old. Like i said, everything i state about Shields and his stats are complete facts, and the facts say he’s a premier man coverage guy, who’s become a true lock down corner, had there been a Sam Shields caliber at the other corner spot, and both safety’s when it comes to coverage, we would of had 1 of if not the best pass D in the NFL last year. I know what i’m talking about, just cause you’re older than dirt and been around since the Starr days don’t mean you know more than somebody, i know what i’m talking about, Packers football and football in general is what i know, more than most.

          • Mike Brand

            yawn as i said whats don is done your points to me are invalid same as mine to you all we can hope for now is shields to grow as many of you seem to think he will . all we can hope for now is a safety like pryor for a plan b for if shields has already peaked as i think he has

          • Mike Brand

            oh and until you have over 40 yrs of being a packers fan like me dont even think you know more betting your a bama fan who came over when lacy did have you even seen lynn dickey at lambeu i have what about seeing majic shoes at lambeu i have i even been there to see favre and rodgers . my grand dad was the grounds keeper there in the 60′s and 70s so do you really want to go into battle of who know packers history . oh and by the way bart starr lives 3 houses from me here in birmingham al . could care less if shields is 4 or 5 years if he is not elite now he never will be he is not even in the same league as verner who i might add is 25 and in the top 10 backs unlike shields

          • Phillip

            This website won’t even let me post a link to another website without being approved, what kind of crap is that??? Just go to Bleecher report, find the article on “New Contract is a Win-Win for Packers and Shields”, there it state all the facts i just listed for your delusional self who clearly undervalues Shields.

          • Guest

            Just need to add 1 more thing i just read. In the 5 games facing Calvin, Gordon, Green, and Marshall, Shields only allowed 8 catches for 129 yards and 1 TD and picked off 2 when thrown at. A shutout against Gordon, 1 catch for 37 yards vs Marshall between both games, just 3 catches for 36 yards against Calvin with a pick on the jump ball in the endzone and than 4 catches for 46 yards vs AJ Green with 1 TD and 1 INT. That kind of info there is what makes Sam Shields a very valuable corner. Here’s the article if you don’t believe me.

          • Phillip

            N also yes, without Shields making a hell of a play on that throw to set up our game winning drive we lose that game. And as for Greg Jenning, of course I would of liked to keep him but he was in no way as important as a player like Sam Shields is and in no way are the 2 situations equal, Jennings is the same situation as James Jones, Packers would love to keep him but we know its not gonna hurt to lose him because of our WR core. We don’t have an eqivalent of Jordy, Cobb n Jones in our secondary right now, Same Shielda to our CBs is eqivalent to Jordy to our WRs. I wasn’t in any way worried about Jennings just like I ain’t worried about Jones, our offense is gonna be just fine. I know more about this game than youll ever know.

          • Mike Brand

            ok explain big ben, nick foles. colin kaepernick or however it is spelled how about shields only looks good with teams wit sucky qbs lets be honest first game we played with the lions megatron was out the 2nd game what exactly did shields do with him but get left behind on thanksgiving day. how about the first game of the year shields i believe was out but the 2nd game with the niners he did a real good job on the wrs there. lets face the truth shields is average to just above average. thank god cutler played the 2nd time because the back up qb even showed shields up. also this can not be blamed on all the corners and shields be put on a pedestal he was as guilty as they were on missing big plays.i just feel we can do better without a lot of the guys on defense and without dom capers. lets face it the only part of our defense that worked great was aj hawk he had a vey solid year and is not paid but a 1/4 of what shields wants

      • Mike Brand

        also if we use the tag on him his agent will want 11 mil a year for 5 years. look at the free agents and tell me how shields compares to them . he dont he is not even in the same class. shields is a good corner but not a great corner . if he is the great pope as so many of you try to make him out to be why was our secondary such a big mess in 2013 . i would rather him walk and try to get verner or talib or davis and pay them a bit more because those free agents are elite corners. shields is a in house developed player that struggles more than many will admit to . hayward in 2012 outplayed shields big time look at the stats

        • Phillip

          Nobody ever said anything aboit tagging him, that wouldn’t make any sense when he was only asking for around 7 annually. And as for the D being a mess, Shields even on that mess was the 16th ranked corner last year covering #1 WR weekly, WR’s like Marshall twice, Calvin, Dez, Gordon, AJ Green, Antonio Brown, Torrey Smith, and more. To be the 16th ranked corner after a season of covering elite WRs like that is actually pretty exceptional. There probably isnt another corner that lined up against the talent Shields did. Also if Shield really wasn’t that good whys he listed as the #22 FA overall??? Grimes just signed at 8 yearly, Shields may not be as good at the moment but he’s younger, faster n has much more upside and potential to be a top 10 corner. If Grimes is worth 8, Shields is worth at least 7 lile he was repotedly asking for and you don’t think so you’re obviously delusional. Its crazy how some of you are ok losing 1 of the only bright spots from last season n 1 of our few playmakers, n if you think TT would go after somebody like Verner or Byrd after just trying to offer Shield under 6, well than you’re more delusional than you seem.

          • Mike Brand

            you just said it yourself the 16th best corner so why pay him like he is the best should we bring back brett farve and pay him 20 mil a year for a back up qb.. im sure your thinking we should give shields a huge contract typical bandwagon fan true fans want the team to grow. to grow we must clear out a lot f the average to slightly above average players and get players that make impact and being the 16th corner is only 16 from the bottom of the top 32. also verner is more of a btter corner than shields so is talib both were not tagged and we could pay one of those guys 8 mil a year . so let me ask you this would you rather pay 7 mil for the 16th ranked corner or pay 8 mil for a top 5 corner . maybe your the one that is delusional

          • Mike Brand

            and yes im ready to let several walk including shields 5 years in the nfl and he is only gotten to above average how much more can he grow in the last 3 years before his slow down time. i think shields peaked already and i dont think he gets any better than what he is now . tillman by year 4 was a top 5 corner where he stayed til this past year due to slowing down due to age. so im sure ted thompson has a plan and trustes hyde and hayward to do the same job or even pick up a talib or a verner for a bit more but a better product for only 1 mil less in shields

    • Phillip

      Also, what we have at corner are major question marks. Hayward would easily be the best fit, probably be pretty good based off his rookie year but will a nagging hammy ruin his potential?? Could it be possible he was a 1 year wonder?? Who knows, but what I do know is nothing we have at the moment is gonna improve our D at CB without Shields. House proved in the WC he clearly isn’t an option, he showed exactly why he was pulled out of all packages the last part of the season. Hyde we don’t even know if he’ll be able to play outside. We know Bush isn’t a #2 guy. Losing Shields just adds 1 more major holes to the handful of major holes we already have if he isn’t replaced with an already established experienced playmaker. Get ready for another year of our D anchoring down our great offense.

  • rodgers rules

    Shields is not an elite corner. He’s a very good corner. CBS has him as the no. 7 free agent corner.