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		<title>Anthony Hargrove: Do the Packers keep him around?</title>
		<link>http://lombardiave.com/2012/05/03/anthony-hargrove-do-the-packers-keep-him-around/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 12:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Rivard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>With the announcement yesterday that Anthony Hargrove, the Packers&#8217; newly-acquired defensive lineman, would be suspended for half of the season because of his involvement in &#8220;bountygate&#8221; as a member of the New Orleans Saints, the question about whether Green Bay will keep him around begs to be answered. The knee-jerk reaction, one that many feel [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/05/03/anthony-hargrove-do-the-packers-keep-him-around/">Anthony Hargrove: Do the Packers keep him around?</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_9434" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 416px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/05/4935526.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-9434" title="NFL: New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/05/4935526.jpg" alt="" width="406" height="550" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove is now a member of the Green Bay Packers. After his suspension of eight games was announced, the question is whether the Packers will keep him. Kim Klement-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>With the announcement yesterday that Anthony Hargrove, the Packers&#8217; newly-acquired defensive lineman, would be suspended for half of the season because of his involvement in &#8220;bountygate&#8221; as a member of the New Orleans Saints, the question about whether Green Bay will keep him around begs to be answered.</p>
<p>The knee-jerk reaction, one that many feel will be completed by Packers&#8217; general manager Ted Thompson, is to cut ties immediately.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the answer.</p>
<p>First of all, the Packers picked up the experienced player for a song. Second of all, the guy will still be able to work out and provide some competitive depth at the position as the team continues to develop their younger players. Just because he&#8217;s been suspended for half the season doesn&#8217;t mean the Packers can&#8217;t still benefit.</p>
<p>If they keep him, the Packers could utilize him for the stretch run starting in November. Inevitably, there will also be injuries along the line by that time in the season and he will certainly be some fresh legs who could provide quality minutes.</p>
<p>In my mind, the more important question is whether the Packers will keep Mike Neal. Yes, he&#8217;s also been suspended for four games and has spent the past two seasons injured. Though he came back from a knee injury last season, he was like a ghost player. He literally had no statistics and simply filled a roster spot.</p>
<p>Though Hargrove&#8217;s checkered past may scare some, at least he&#8217;s a player who made an impact on the field. My hope is that he&#8217;s learned his lesson, has moved on and could give the Packers a couple of quality seasons at a position that is crucial for a team&#8217;s overall success.</p>
<p>So, the bottom line for me is the team&#8217;s success. Though he&#8217;s gone for half the year, Hargrove still has significant value for the Packers. Let Ted Thompson and head coach Mike McCarthy worry about the character issue. Had they been worried about it before, they wouldn&#8217;t have signed him. Surely, they were aware of the baggage and possible suspension before they signed on the dotted line.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to move on, concentrate on building team chemistry, develop the young players and bring Hargrove back into the fold when the suspension is lifted.</p>
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		<title>In his own words: Greg Williams audio</title>
		<link>http://lombardiave.com/2012/04/05/in-his-own-words-greg-williams-audio/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Rivard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Many of you may have already heard this pregame speech given by New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Greg Williams prior to the NFC Championship Game against the San Francisco 49ers. If you haven&#8217;t, you must give it a lesson. Here is an impassioned man, without a doubt. A man possessed, a man on the attack. [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/04/05/in-his-own-words-greg-williams-audio/">In his own words: Greg Williams audio</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_8987" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 375px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/04/6127984.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-8987" title="NFL: NFC Wild Card Playoff- Detroit Lions at New Orleans Saints" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/04/6127984.jpg" alt="" width="365" height="550" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The newly-released audio of New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Greg Williams has shocked many. John David Mercer-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>Many of you may have already heard this pregame speech given by New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Greg Williams prior to the NFC Championship Game against the San Francisco 49ers.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t, you must give it a lesson. Here is an impassioned man, without a doubt. A man possessed, a man on the attack. In football, that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s about.</p>
<p>What sets Williams apart is his tact &#8230; his mean-spirited demeanor and the wrong approach to winning at all costs. There are other ways to motivate men. Telling them to take out the head to kill the body is the wrong way. Telling his charges to hurt others for their gain is wrong.</p>
<p>If you had no opinion before about the bounty situation and the reason why NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell came down hard on the New Orleans Saints, maybe after giving this a listen you will. This particular three minutes raised the hair on the back of my neck.</p>
<p>Warning: If you have small children in the room, put on a pair of headphones or turn your volume down enough so they can&#8217;t hear it. It&#8217;s disturbing enough for grown adults. It&#8217;s not something for young children.</p>
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		<title>Bob Costas on Saints punishments</title>
		<link>http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/22/bob-costas-on-saints-punishments/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Rivard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been a big fan of Bob Costas. His coverage over the years has been right on target and this time around I have to say I can&#8217;t disagree with him. Last night he presented his thoughts on the punishments meted out by Roger Goodell on the New Orleans Saints. Below you will find [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/22/bob-costas-on-saints-punishments/">Bob Costas on Saints punishments</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_8862" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 401px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/4335053.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-8862" title="NFL: Dallas Cowboys at Washington Redskins" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/4335053.jpg" alt="" width="391" height="550" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">NBC broadcaster Bob Costas. Geoff Burke-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been a big fan of <a title="Gotta love Costas" href="http://lombardiave.com/2011/11/27/gotta-love-costas/" target="_blank">Bob Costas</a>. His coverage over the years has been right on target and this time around I have to say I can&#8217;t disagree with him.</p>
<p>Last night he presented his thoughts on the punishments meted out by Roger Goodell on the New Orleans Saints.</p>
<p>Below you will find his comments and <a href="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/costas-applauds-punishment-of-saints/" target="_blank">here is a link to the video on profootballtalk.com</a> His on-air presentation was a part of  <em>NBC SportsTalk </em>Wednesday night.</p>
<p>Take the time to read or listen to this. Even if you don&#8217;t totally agree with what he has to say, he says it well and the information is of importance to all NFL fans.</p>
<p>Here is the text of his presentation:</p>
<blockquote><p>“I want to stand up and cheer for Roger Goodell.</p>
<p>“Now, the penalty to the players, which may be a little trickier because he may face some resistance from the Players Association; but the penalty for the players will be forthcoming, we are led to believe in about a week, and I think they will also be appropriately severe.</p>
<p>“He has made an important statement today. And anyone who thinks that the Saints are scapegoats because of the present atmosphere in the NFL, maybe their timing was off, but they deserve every bit of this. They are blatantly guilty of something that has no place whatsoever in sports.</p>
<p>“And it goes beyond the idea of bounties. If people interpret this as, ‘Well no one will ever have any bounties anymore’ at least not anything that can be traced, Roger Goodell is sending a message about the culture of the game, about the celebration of a kind of violence, a kind of brutality that goes above and beyond anything that reasonable people should accept.</p>
<p>“It’s understood within football, whether there are bounties or not, that many players, not all, maybe not most, that many players are either indifferent to whether or not they injure opponents or actually take pride and glee in injuring opponents.  There is no question about it.  This is not isolated to the New Orleans Saints.</p>
<p>“The NFL as it is presently constituted is a great, great game that’s exciting in many ways, interesting in many ways, and clearly is America’s most popular sport.  It also has a serious problem because it is fundamentally brutal in a way that reasonable people should no longer accept.</p>
<p>“And Roger Goodell is trying to deal with that, both (a) because it’s the right thing to do, and I believe he is a good man, but (b) because he’s also a businessman and he knows that with all this litigation out there, and more coming, he’s got to position the league as standing as reasonably as it can against excessive and gratuitous violence.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Poll: What do you think of Roger Goodell&#8217;s punishment of the Saints?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Rivard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s punishments handed down by NFL commissioner, Roger &#8220;Kenesaw Mountain Landis&#8221; Goodell, was unprecedented, hammering the New Orleans Saints organization like no other commissioner has ever handled a punishment in the league. Clearly, Goodell is sending a message like none other &#8230; and from the sounds of it, things have just started. The talk is the [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/21/poll-what-do-you-think-of-roger-goodells-punishment-of-the-saints/">Poll: What do you think of Roger Goodell&#8217;s punishment of the Saints?</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_8848" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 660px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/5875974.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-8848" title="NFL: NFC Wild Card Playoff- Detroit Lions at New Orleans Saints" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/5875974.jpg" alt="" width="650" height="484" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Former New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was indefinitely suspended today for his role in the Saints&#39; bounties. Derick E. Hingle-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>Today&#8217;s punishments handed down by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Goodell" target="_blank">NFL commissioner, Roger &#8220;Kenesaw Mountain Landis&#8221; Goodell</a>, was unprecedented, hammering the <a href="http://www.neworleanssaints.com" target="_blank">New Orleans Saints</a> organization like no other commissioner has ever handled a punishment in the league.</p>
<p>Clearly, Goodell is sending a message like none other &#8230; and from the sounds of it, things have just started. The talk is the players are next in line for either suspensions, fines or both.</p>
<p>No doubt, this has got to go down in New Orleans Saints history as one of its darkest days. The damage done to the Super Dome during the hurricane a few years back will long be compared to the strong winds blowing through the organization today.</p>
<p>How you feel about it all? Take the poll, leave a comment and let us know.</p>
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		<title>Payton out for one year as Saints coach</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Rivard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen it blow up on Twitter and Facebook &#8230; the news that New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton being slapped with a one year suspension with no pay &#8230; OUCH! Top that with the news that his former defensive coordinator, Greg Williams being suspended indefinitely, the team being fined a half-million [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/21/payton-out-for-one-year-as-saints-coach/">Payton out for one year as Saints coach</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_8845" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 660px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/5628964.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-8845" title="NFL: New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/5628964.jpg" alt="" width="650" height="431" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton will be sitting at home this fall without a job. Fernando Medina-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen it blow up on Twitter and Facebook &#8230; the news that New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton being slapped with a one year suspension with no pay &#8230; OUCH! Top that with the news that his former defensive coordinator, Greg Williams being suspended indefinitely, the team being fined a half-million bucks, general manager Mickey Loomis being been suspended for eight games, Saints assistant head coach Joe Vitt being suspended without pay for the first six games of the 2012 season and you&#8217;ve got a day that will go down in NFL history.</p>
<p>Many believed NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell would come down hard on this punishment, but he shocked everyone with his sledge-hammer.</p>
<p>Not only will this make NFL history, it will most likely go down as the week of the Payton (or is it Peyton?). Either way, the news that Peyton Manning signing with the Denver Broncos, has quickly been overshadowed by the Sean Payton news and the Saints&#8217; punishment in time and dollars. Also making news today, but as a small sidelight to the Saints is the matter of Broncos former starting quarterback taking his Tebow Time to New York City &#8211; what better place for his circus?</p>
<p>While the news about Peyton Manning upsetting the NFL&#8217;s quarterback apple cart with his announcement of signing Monday was huge, the shocking news about Sean Payton and the Saints is much, much bigger.</p>
<p>Much will be said about this as the league starts to sort through the fallout. It&#8217;s going to affect the entire league, not just the Saints.</p>
<p>And you can bet those cigar boxes filled with cash that have been left laying around NFL locker rooms will most certainly find a way to the hidden corners of the facility.</p>
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		<title>Stuffed shirts will hurt the game more than bounties</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 13:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Rivard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Bounties; Gregg Williams; New Orleans Saints. The terms are synonymous these days and with the news that newly-hired St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator/New Orleans, Buffalo, Washington, et al, coordinator/coach being summoned by the league big wigs for a pow-wow about what&#8217;s transpired this past weekend, one has to wonder if the fire pit has already [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/05/stuffed-shirts-will-hurt-the-game-more-than-bounties/">Stuffed shirts will hurt the game more than bounties</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_8554" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 209px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/5003912.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-8554" title="NFL: Seattle Seahawks at New Orleans Saints" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/5003912-199x300.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams talks with linebacker Jonathan Vilma (51). Williams will also be talking with Commissioner Roger Goodell about bounties. Derick E. Hingle-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p><a title="Matt Bowen: Bounties are part of the game" href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/03/matt-bowen-bounties-are-part-of-the-game/" target="_blank">Bounties; Gregg Williams; New Orleans Saints.</a></p>
<p>The terms are synonymous these days and with the news that newly-hired St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator/New Orleans, Buffalo, Washington, et al, coordinator/coach being summoned by the league big wigs for a pow-wow about what&#8217;s transpired this past weekend, one has to wonder if the fire pit has already been built.</p>
<p>Williams, who has been connected with bounty schemes and play for pay incentives at just about every stop along his career, has been told that he has to report to league headquarters to talk about it. Yes, Williams has gone on record and apologized – publicly admitting that he was aware of his behavior, saying that it was wrong, thus setting up an awkward meeting that will have Williams sitting across from administrators who know deep down that what Williams has done isn&#8217;t anything new.</p>
<p>Locker rooms with players&#8217; cigar boxes filled with cash to be handed out to those who fulfill specific incentives is nothing new in professional football and the practice goes back to the early days of the game when it was not only a lot rougher, but not as lucrative. Not only did it add spice to the day&#8217;s game, it provided a few extra bucks for the players who not only played the games on the weekends, but held down regular jobs during the week.</p>
<p>To be a fly on Roger Goodell&#8217;s wall during this meeting &#8230; to hear the noble gestures about ethics and the integrity of the game would be priceless.</p>
<p>No doubt some type of penalties will be incurred &#8211; not only by Williams, but by the New Orleans Saints. Press conferences and news releases will include demands by the league for teams to frown upon any future shenanigans and those involved in this most recent activity will again apologize.</p>
<p>Then hopefully everyone will get back to the business of football. There will be hard hits on quarterbacks, players will get injured and carried off the field &#8230; that&#8217;s the grisly nature of the game.</p>
<p>Will players again get back to slipping one another C-notes? Probably. Will it hurt the integrity of the game? Only if they get caught.</p>
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		<title>Should the Saints face consequences for bounties?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Rivard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The announcement by the NFL yesterday of their findings from an investigation of the New Orleans Saints and the fallout, especially on Facebook and Twitter, has been monumental. The question of the day is what should happen now? What will Roger Goodell do? Nothing because it happens all the time? Fine coaches and players? Take [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/03/should-the-saints-face-consequences-for-bounties/">Should the Saints face consequences for bounties?</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/images.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-8528" title="images" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/images.jpg" alt="" width="224" height="214" /></a>The announcement by the NFL yesterday of their findings from an investigation of the New Orleans Saints and the fallout, especially on Facebook and Twitter, has been monumental.</p>
<p>The question of the day is what should happen now? What will Roger Goodell do? Nothing because it happens all the time? Fine coaches and players? Take away a first round draft pick?</p>
<p>How about banishment? Well, maybe not.</p>
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		<title>Matt Bowen: Bounties are part of the game</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>We would be naive, if not childish, to think that what went down with the New Orleans Saints over the past couple of days with the bounty situation isn&#8217;t really the norm in the NFL. We all know it as the No Fun League or the Not For Long League and the article below by [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/03/matt-bowen-bounties-are-part-of-the-game/">Matt Bowen: Bounties are part of the game</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would be naive, if not childish, to think that what went down with the New Orleans Saints over the past couple of days with the bounty situation isn&#8217;t really the norm in the NFL. We all know it as the No Fun League or the Not For Long League and the article below by Matt Bowen (which is a MUST READ, btw) tells it like it is.</p>
<p>Matt Bowen, who played a season for the Green Bay Packers and for Greg Williams in Washington, pulls no punches. He&#8217;s real, he&#8217;s sincere, and he doesn&#8217;t make any excuses. As he says, it&#8217;s part of the game. Live with it, Commissioner Goodell.</p>
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<p>So, if you haven&#8217;t already seen this post, click here or just see it pasted below:</p>
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<h1>Bounties part of game across the NFL</h1>
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<h2>It might not be right or ethical, but if winning means crossing a line, you do it</h2>
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<p>In a makeshift meeting room, with the whisper of evening traffic pouring in from the Beltway, we laid our bounties on opposing players. We targeted big names, our sights set on taking them out of the <a id="itxthook0" href="http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-02/sports/ct-spt-0304-bowen-nfl--20120304_1_bounties-head-coach-nfl#" rel="nofollow">game</a>.</p>
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<div>Price tags started low during the regular season — a couple hundred bucks for going after the quarterback hard or taking a running back out below the knees. Chop him down and give a quick smile when you got back to the huddle. You just got a bonus.</div>
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<p>The pot was collected throughout the season through fines. Show up late? Ding. Blow an assignment during practice? Again. Walk on the field with your chinstrap unbuckled. Again. Break the rules, you gave to the <a id="itxthook1" href="http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-02/sports/ct-spt-0304-bowen-nfl--20120304_1_bounties-head-coach-nfl#" rel="nofollow">bank</a>.</p>
<p>The <a id="itxthook2" href="http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-02/sports/ct-spt-0304-bowen-nfl--20120304_1_bounties-head-coach-nfl#" rel="nofollow">cash</a> was kept stashed away at the team facility, in safe hands. After coaches reviewed Sunday&#8217;s film, we paid it back out. Our accountability, governed by our accounting.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right. We got paid for big hits, clean hits by the rule book.</p>
<p><a id="itxthook3" href="http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-02/sports/ct-spt-0304-bowen-nfl--20120304_1_bounties-head-coach-nfl#" rel="nofollow">Money</a> came in for more than watching a guy leave the field. We earned extra for interceptions, sacks and forced fumbles. If the till wasn&#8217;t paid out, we just rolled it over.</p>
<p>Money jumped in the playoffs. A bigger stage equaled more coin. Instead of a few hundred dollars, now you got a thousand, maybe more, depending on the player.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the truth. I can&#8217;t sugarcoat this. It was a system we all bought into.</p>
<p>I ate it up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard not to, not when you&#8217;re playing for a coach like Gregg Williams, my defensive coordinator while I was with the Washington Redskins.</p>
<p>Williams is an excellent motivator. You do what he wants: play tough, push the envelope and carry a swagger that every opponent sees on tape. When you lined up against us, you knew we were coming after you. It was our gig, our plan, our way to motivate, to extra-motivate.</p>
<p>I wanted to be That Guy for him, playing the game with an attitude opposing players absolutely feared. If that meant playing through the whistle or going low on a tackle, I did it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t regret any part of it. I can&#8217;t. Williams is the best coach I ever played for in my years in the NFL, a true teacher who developed me as a player. I believed in him. I still do. That will never change.</p>
<p>Your career exists in a short window, one that starts closing the moment it opens. If making a play to impress a coach or win a game pushes that window up an inch before it slams back down on your fingers, then you do what has to be done.<img src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/HLIC/325472601571f31e1bf00674c368d335.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></p>
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<p>Some day, when my three sons grow up, I will make clear to them that this league isn&#8217;t for everyone. No doubt, it can be downright disgusting living by a win-at-all-costs mentality. It&#8217;s a fundamental part of the NFL&#8217;s culture that isn&#8217;t talked about outside of team facilities.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s right. Or ethical. But the NFL isn&#8217;t little league football with neighborhood dads playing head coach. This is the business of winning. If that means stepping over some line, you do it.</p>
<p>Bounties, cheap shots, whatever you want to call them, they are a part of this game. It is an ugly tradition that was exposed Friday with Williams front and center from his time coaching the defense in New Orleans. But don&#8217;t peg this on him alone. You will find it in plenty of NFL cities.</p>
<p>Win or else. That&#8217;s the drill.</p>
<p><em>Special contributor Matt Bowen, who played at Glenbard West and Iowa, spent seven seasons in the NFL as a strong safety. You also can find his work at nationalfootballpost.com</em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s news that the New Orleans Saints players and coaches were involved in a bounty payoff system in which money was pooled and exchanged for various on field actions is disturbing &#8230; especially in light of the fact that defensive coordinator Greg Williams and head coach Sean Payton were nearly hired by the Green Bay [...]</p><p><a href="http://lombardiave.com/2012/03/02/mutiny-on-the-bounty-packers-nearly-hired-saints-williams-payton/">Mutiny on the Bounty: Packers nearly hired Saints&#8217; Williams, Payton</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave</a> - <a href="http://lombardiave.com">Lombardi Ave - A Green Bay Packers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_8521" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/5897578.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-8521" title="NFL: NFC Divisional Playoff-New Orleans Saints at San Francisco 49ers" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2012/03/5897578-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Though New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton wasn&#39;t directly involved in the bounty scheme, he didn&#39;t stop it when he learned about it. Cary Edmondson-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>Today&#8217;s news that the <a href="http://www.neworleanssaints.com" target="_blank">New Orleans Saints</a> players and coaches were involved in a bounty payoff system in which money was pooled and exchanged for various on field actions is disturbing &#8230; especially in light of the fact that defensive coordinator Greg Williams and head coach Sean Payton were nearly hired by the <a href="http://www.packers.com" target="_blank">Green Bay Packers</a> before they took over in New Orleans.</p>
<p>While bounties are hardly something that&#8217;s not been a part of football over the past century, today&#8217;s announcement by the league is the first such case in recent memory. Given the incredible amounts of money paid to these athletes, it&#8217;s unusual to see this type of behavior occurring in the NFL.</p>
<p>According to published reports, Williams is said to have helped manage the scheme and that while he wasn&#8217;t directly involved, Payton didn&#8217;t stop the action when he was told about it. Williams was a finalist for the Packers&#8217; defensive coordinator&#8217;s job a few years back before Green Bay hired Dom Capers and Payton is known for saying he really, really wanted the Green Bay head coaching job before the Packers hired Coach Mike McCarthy.</p>
<p>What will happen with the Saints is not known, but the league clearly has its sights on some sort of punitive action.</p>
<p>League commissioner Roger Goodell will determine the appropriate punishment.</p>
<p>He had this to say today:</p>
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<p>“It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated. We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it.”</p></blockquote>
<p>But to say other teams, including the Packers, haven&#8217;t had this type of behavior associated with their franchise would be naive. A few years ago, Charles Woodson and Al Harris were accused of offering bounty dollars to defensive linemen if they held Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson below 100 yards. Though accused, coach McCarthy said at the time the Packers and the league handled the matter.</p>
<p>One might go back a few more years and remember the name of Charles Martin and his body slam of Jim McMahon &#8211; though many felt McMahon deserved it.</p>
<p>So, how this latest chapter of NFL football follies will end remains to be seen. It has certainly caused a ruckus that won&#8217;t soon be forgotten.</p>
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