Football legend and Hopkins County, Texas, native, Forrest Gregg, autographs copies of his new book, “Winning in the Trenches,” at a North Dallas book signing.
Photo courtesy of www.frontporchnewstexas.com

Forrest Gregg is a Pro Football Hall of Famer who doesn’t forget his past.

It’s his family, friends, and former colleagues and coaches who mean the most to him. In fact, those are the things in his life he cherishes. The championships were great and rank up there among his memories, but it’s his roots from where he draws his greatest strength.

Forrest Gregg was known for his intensity on the football field.
Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame photograph

And because of that, the Pro Football Hall of Fame and Allstate Insurance have teamed up to arrange for a gathering at his home hometown high school in Sulphur Springs, Texas, on Monday, April 8. Gregg will be honored at the high school as part of the “Hometown Hall of Famers,” a national program honoring the hometown roots of the sport’s greatest coaches, players, and contributors with special ceremonies and plaque dedication events.

“This is very special time for us – the whole family,” Gregg said in an interview with lombardiave.com. My daughter, Karen, is going to present me and we’ll have all those old friends there. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate Allstate and the Hall of Fame. I feel like this is an award not just for me, but for Sulphur Springs and Sulphur Springs High School and all the people I went to school with.”

Gregg, who resides now in Colorado Springs, Colo., has suffered the past couple of years with Parkinson’s disease, but one couldn’t tell from talking to him. He seems content and loves recalling the days from 50-plus years ago when his strength and endurance as a young man allowed him to play 16 seasons and 188 straight games with the Green Bay Packers.

Gregg is old school not just because that’s the way he was taught, it’s because that’s who he is. When describing where and how he grew up at a gathering to recognize his book, “Winning in the Trenches,” Gregg said,  ”I grew up in a small community, north of Sulphur Springs, that most of you don’t even know where it is. Birthright was 10 miles north of the county seat, Sulphur Springs … and at the time, Sulphur Springs had only about 6,000 people, and Birthright was ‘pushing it’ to have 250 or more, but you knew almost everyone.”

He remembered his high school days in Sulphur Springs when the coaches and teachers he worked with had such an instrumental role in determining his life’s passion. He remembered his coaches who challenged him and inspired him. There was Skinny Davis, the man who coached him in high school and helped convince him to attend Southern Methodist University from where he was selected in the second round by Vince Lombardi and the Green Bay Packers – another coach who greatly influenced his life path.

When asked what he may have done with his life had he not gone into professional football, Gregg said, “I think about that and especially now I think about that – what I would have done. I think because I always admired the coaches and teachers that I had, I think maybe I would have been a school teacher and coach. I guess at the time I didn’t know I liked coaching, but that’s probably what I would have done.”

Forrest Gregg

And after thinking about that statement a moment, he said he realized that he had spent a great deal of time in the coaching ranks. Gregg started his pro coaching career in Cleveland with the Browns in 1975, where he stayed three years. He then moved on to the Cincinnati Bengals where he coached four years (1980-83). His best season with the Bengals was in 1981 when they won the AFC Championship and had it not been for the famous Joe Montana-led drive late in the Super Bowl, that team could have been world champions.

Gregg was hired in 1984 by the Green Bay Packers where he coached through 1987 before resigning and taking a job at SMU where he finished his coaching career.

As a player, Gregg is known as one of the best offensive lineman in the league’s history. Vince Lombardi called him the “finest” player he ever coached.

And he talks freely and openly about the respect and love he had for Lombardi – and especially the influences he had.

“First of all, I think the most influence he [Lombardi] had  … he always said three things were most important in life: you religion, your family and your job … those are your priorities, he told us. No question he made those priorities while he was with us in Green Bay. He lived by it,” Gregg said.

With that in mind, Gregg recalled an important day decades ago:

“The day I was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, I really didn’t have a speech and I didn’t know what I was going to say until I got up there. It was a very emotional time for me. I said I was going to tell the people how I felt. But as I was riding in that parade and there were people yelling at you and you try to act like you’re not nervous … I saw my wife, my two children, and … I saw a friend of mine from high school, Bill Pogue, and Bill Forester a great linebacker at Green Bay … I saw those two guys and my family and that really touched me. When I made my speech that ‘s what I thought about – the people who are important. They were there for me.”

Among those people who have been so important to him were the players with whom toiled on the field of play.

Gino Marchetti

He remembered Gino Marchetti, the Baltimore Colts‘ defensive lineman who was the toughest player he lined up against. “Gino Marchetti – Baltimore Colts – maybe the purest pass rusher of all time. Marchetti was a great pass rusher who had strength, speed, and quickness and was also great against the run. There wasn’t one scond during a ball game against Gino Marchetti when you could relax. He was always in your face – always ready to come off the ball to make a tackle or sack the quarterback.”

He also singled out Deacon Jones of the Los Angeles Rams as another of the toughest players he lined up against, but said that Marchetti was the toughest.

But it was his own teammates that he thought highly of … they were the players he practiced against every day – the players who made him into the man he became.

“We had a lot of physical ball players. Willie Davis – an incredible man and player – and we had a guy by the name of Ray Nitschke [who] was a pretty tough guy …

“Playing and practicing against them – yes, absolutely. Whatever position they played, they made you better. Whether it was Bill Forester in the outside position and then there was Dave Robinson who came in … they maybe didn’t go 110 percent in practice like they would in the ball game, but they went all out and made you work harder and made you a better football player.”

Gregg also coached some pretty good players during his days in Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Green Bay. But the best player he ever coached was another hall of famer that he drafted in the first round (3rd overall) of the 1980 NFL Draft - Anthony Munoz.

He recalled the day prior to the draft when he first met Munoz:

Anthony Munoz, a hall of famer drafted by Forrest Gregg, is the best player Gregg ever coached.

I went out to California before the draft and worked him out. There were some questions on well he could move [because he had knee surgery that offseason]. I kind of wanted to see how he would do. So, I was the defensive guy and I set up different situations so he could block me. I told him that I was going to rush the passer on third and nine. He set up on me and I did an inside move and then was going to do an outside move – he jammed me and knocked me right on my butt … I know that he thought, ‘there goes my chance in the draft.’”

Gregg was impressed and knew right away that Munoz was a special player – not only was he special, but Munoz joined Gregg in the Hall of Fame with his induction in 1998 after a 13-year career – all with Cincinnati and all at left tackle.

But Gregg didn’t forget all of the players he coached through the years, including Cris Collinsworth with the Bengals and James Lofton with the Packers -Lofton is also a hall of famer.

“That Lofton, he was pretty good, and so was Collinsworth. I  was just lucky to work with guys of that caliber.”

In talking about how the game has changed, especially the play of offensive linemen, Gregg said that two major rules have decidedly changed how the game is played today.

“The difference is that they have the ability to use their hands now. We couldn’t use your hands at all when I played. Now they can use their hands and on the other side of the ball the defensive linemen can no longer use the head slap against offensive linemen. I think that’s for the better – these rules have made the game better.”

And as far as the changes in the game that surround the amount of money involved, especially when it comes to player salaries, Gregg said, “That’s the times. The guys now – they play football well – there are great players in this league and I will never begrudge a player in making as much money as they can make. I made what I made and had the chance to play.”

Clearly, Gregg is pleased with what life has brought him – championships, friendships and a chance to be part of a football generation that made the game what it is today.

“It was a great time,” he said as he remembered the changes and influences he and his colleague’s brought about. “We saw a chance for a pension;  we saw two leagues come together to form one big league; and we saw quite a few rule changes that really made the game great. Those were great days.”

What he didn’t say was that it was his generation that set the game up for success. Bolstered by the influence of television and games being beamed into households across the country every Sunday made professional football not just a game, but a huge business – one of the biggest and most popular businesses in the world today.

But all that doesn’t mean much to Gregg as he gets set to go back to his roots Monday – to go back to his high school and to be honored by those from where he began.

It’s the people who matter most to him; the influences, his family, and those who have stood by him, in health and sickness.

Over the years, thousands and millions have said thanks to him.

On Monday, he gets to say thanks – and that pleases him more than anything.

Below are some videos of Gregg that may be of interest …

It was a different time for the Green Bay Packers, but you know what? The fans really enjoyed it.

The Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame posted this as a reminder of those days gone by.

Enjoy.

Packers Display College Spirit in First Visit to Madison

August 9, 1986 – The Green Bay Packers make themselves at home during their first trip to Camp Randall Stadium in Madison by blowing out the New York Jets 38-14 before a raucous crowd of 73,959 enthused customers. “Even though it’s not our home stadium, it’s our home state,” Packers coach Forrest Gregg says. “The big crowd helped inspire our kids.” The stadium was familiar to Randy Wright who played there during his years as a quarterback for Wisconsin. Now in his third season with the Packers, Wright was the starter in this, Green Bay’s preseason opener. “Before the game I was real careful not to get caught up in all the hoopla. I had to concentrate on the game.”

James Lofton had a significant amount of respect for his former coach, Forrest Gregg.

Today’s posting by the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame, a post that quotes Hall of Fame wide receiver James Lofton as looking forward to a “tough camp” in 1984 is gives credence to the story that was published yesterday by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about Forrest Gregg.

With that story, JS reporter Tyler Dunne also included a blog quoting Lofton and how he felt about Gregg and his relationships with his players. Lofton reiterated his respect for the former Packers player and coach in yesterday’s story – something that comes through in his quotes below from 1984.

If you haven’t read the story posted by Dunne, you should. It’s how sports stories should be written. Check out his story here and the comments by Lofton here.

And enjoy the post below.

James Lofton Expects a Tough Camp

July 9, 1984 –James Lofton says he expects a tough training camp under new Packers coach Forrest Gregg, but isn’t concerned about it. “The guys who perform have fun at practice,” the veteran receiver says while visiting Ville du Parc Country Club in Mequon, Wisconsin to announce the third annual NFLPA Celebrity Golf Classic benefitting the March of Dimes. “Whether someone cracks a joke or someone pulls a prank on a teammate or one of the coaches. The guys who perform aren’t going to change no matter what happens.” Lofton adds: “I think what he (Gregg) was talking about are the guys who don’t push themselves.” In 1984, Lofton achieves a person best 1,361 receiving yards.

October 10, 2010; Baltimore, MD, USA; Baltimore Ravens quarterback coach Jim Zorn prior to the game against the Denver Broncos at M

It was 1986 and the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame’s Today in Packers History reminds of a deal that saw the Packers sign Jim Zorn and cut Mike Douglass. Neither were hall of famers for the team, and only illustrates the level of players who donned the Green and Gold in those days.

Don’t get me wrong, there were great players on these teams, but too many marginal players that made these Forrest Gregg-coached teams mediocre at best.

Anyway, here’s Today in Packers History:

Douglass Out, Zorn In as Packers  Prepare for 1986 Season   May 27, 1986 - The Green Bay Packers announce that they are releasing veteran linebacker Mike Douglass and that they have signed quarterback Jim Zorn to a one-year contract. “We tried to make a trade for Mike Douglass,” Packers coach Forrest Gregg says in a statement. “At this time, there was no interest.” Douglass was a fifth-round draft choice of the team in 1978, and he became a regular in the lineup in 1979. Zorn played in 13 games for Green Bay in 1985 and finished second to Lynn Dickey with 794 passing yards. Photo of Mike Douglass

Forrest Gregg was considered by Vince Lombardi the best player he ever coached. Vernon Biever photograph

Packers coach Vince Lombardi called him the best player he ever coached and he played in 188 straight games, a record at the time. But now Forrest Gregg, 78, has been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease – a condition that has left the iron man with  symptoms that include hand tremors, stooped posture, a shortened stride and a softened voice.

Many remember Gregg as the hardened soul who was a part of the championship offensive lines that protected Bart Starr and blew holes open for Jim Taylor and Paul Hornung. He also coached the Packers in the 80s and was always known as a tough man. His distaste of opposing teams, especially the Chicago Bears and their coach, Mike Ditka, are legendary.

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AJ Hawk will probably be fined for flipping the bird in full view at Lambeau Field Sunday. Raymond T. Rivard photograph

I looked over at my wife and asked, “Did I see what I just thought I saw?”

“Yes” was the answer I quickly heard.

All I could do was giggle a bit and post my tweet about what I saw.

What I and everyone else saw was the single finger salute given by AJ Hawk toward his own sideline.

It wasn’t until after the game when queried about it that it all came clear – it was an inside joke, wasn’t done with malicious intentions and seemingly harmed no one. Remember, these are football fans watching these games. For the most part, these people are immune to gestures like this … at least one would hope.
Will he be fined? Probably. Should he be fined? Probably not.

But if he’s dumb enough to do it in a stadium filled with cameras, well I guess he should pay the price.
“I guess it was on TV,” Hawk said after the game, according to a report in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “I definitely wasn’t mad or upset with anybody. It was kind of a running joke with a couple of my teammates. I got caught up in the emotion of the game.

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